After Hours: Apple Pie, The Martian, Game Of Thrones & Prostates

After Hours: Apple Pie, The Martian, Game Of Thrones & Prostates

It’s Web.Search.Social’s First After Hours Episode!

We’re changing up the podcast and hosting an “after hours” episode once a month where we don’t talk business or marketing, but rather we talk about “stuff.”

Why?

Because we – and you- are more than just the day to day of our jobs. We all have lives and interests and that’s what makes us whole people. And the other stuff is also what makes us better at our businesses because we can’t be all work all the time.

And It Starts With A Rage About The Mortgage Company

In a great example of how business and life bleed together, we recently had a kerfuffle with our mortgage company that forced us to spend time we otherwise could have been working on dealing with their… let’s call it incompetence… instead.

Turns out that our mortgage company decided we don’t have homeowner’s insurance (we do) and to be incredibly helpful they were going to purchase it for us, at a cost four times any reasonable cost we would otherwise have paid, unless we could prove we had our own.

And to prove it, I had to upload our policy documents to their website. Done and done.

Except… not.

Because a month later I got the same letter (“last warning!”). So I called to ask WTF and the rep listened to my story and said, “Oh, we got your documents. We just couldn’t read them.”

So I tried to re-upload the documents only to get an error message from the website that since I had already uploaded a file, I could not upload another. And that my documents were being processed… and that they would let me know if there were any problems!

Unless they didn’t.

Long, F-word-filled story short, the mortgage company contacted our insurance company to ask them to send the documents, but not before I wasted several hours and days dealing with their nonsense.

You may be wondering if it’s now resolved. Well, I’ll let you know in a week which is when I was instructed to call back to find out.

But There’s An Up Side!

Apparently when I’m in a bad mood, I bake. So there is a bright side to days like this, which usually means something delicious.

In fact just this past weekend I baked an apple pie, made my own crust and all. That same day Ralph posted about it on Facebook and our Poet Laureate Melanie Kissell sent me a message with a chuckle saying something like, “I bet you’ll bake a pie when pigs fly.”

Just wondering if that means people really do think that all we do is work!

In fact, I quite enjoy cooking. It’s fun, it’s a great de-stressor and it pays off in something yummy.

So Ralph forgives my bad days when I show up after dinner with cake and pie.

Eight Weeks Of Healthy Eating Pays Off

Remember our “take care of yourself” episode? We talked about the importance of making time for your physical and emotional well being, why you need to eat right and even exercise in spite of all the busyness and the fact that exercise is probably not on anyone’s bucket list.

Well, believe it or not that was eight weeks ago and since then we’ve been eating better and at least for me, I’ve been on the treadmill every day. One of our clients is a hunter/fisherman and he keeps us supplied with some amazing fresh food. I’ve personally cut out sugar, processed food and most bread and pasta because… well, calories!

So when I baked (and yes, ate!) the apple pie it was so rewarding. As an added bonus I fit into some clothes I haven’t worn for… let’s just say way too long!

The Seriously Social Moment

We’re adding a new segment to our shows each week called The Seriously Social Moment which will be a short snippet contributed by our own Chief Executive Research Dude, Ian Anderson Gray.

This week he talks about a study that shows which social media tools are considered the best of 2015 by their users. So if you’re wondering about a tool, looking for a tool, or just thinking you need a better tool, you’ll want to check this out.

Stay tuned for more social goodness in the future!

An Awkward Moment

It starts out as we wish Ian a happy 40th birthday but then goes downhill from there. Ralph mentions that after 40, most doctors’ visits for men end with a doctor’s finger inserted into certain anatomical parts.

Then I go and up the awkwardness by complaining that women have it worse because we get poked and prodded in unmentionable places from the day we turn 15. And men don’t have to get their boobs squeezed. TMI?

Books And Movies Up Next! Thank God.

Both Ralph and I love to read and we enjoy movies. We recently saw the movie The Martian and Ralph was elated, but I was meh.

Ralph enjoyed the movie tremendously and thought it complemented the book wonderfully. He enjoyed the interpretation and how they portrayed the characters.

I thought the move lacked the charm and depth of the book.

Ralph argues that it’s not a matter of whether the book or the movie is better – they work together to enrich the experience. I beg to differ and say that if I had never watched the movie I wouldn’t have missed anything. It was a faithful and interesting adaptation but the book was a much better experience.

We actually disagree wholeheartedly, which doesn’t happen often!

Then Ralph brings up Game Of Thrones and how the book and the show are both fantastic and enrich the collective story because you get more out of both than you could out of one alone.

I haven’t read any Game Of Thrones but I watch the show on HBO. In fact, I won’t read the books until they are all written and published. I’ve been weird like that ever since I started reading Stephen King’s Dark Tower series and there was a 20 year gap between the last two books.

Oh, and I hated the last book so much that I stopped reading Stephen King altogether!

But even though I haven’t read Game Of Thrones, I can totally see how the book and the show and even all the supplemental materials would work together to make the story better. The difference is that the world and story is so vast, so complex and so diverse that it’s almost impossible to get it all at once.

There’s Actually A Business Lesson, Too

Ok, so we said no business, but it all ties together. Ralph says that we can take the lessons of movies and books and apply them to our own storytelling. In simple terms, if you post something on Facebook, for example, you can post something different on Google Plus or Pinterest or elsewhere. You don’t have to repeat the same thing from one venue to another, but use each one to enrich your story, instead.

Finally, something we agree on.

Books As TV Shows

We’re currently hooked on a show called Zoo, which is based on a novel by James Patterson and Michael Ledwidge. It’s a terrible, horrible, stupid show but we can’t stop watching. We have not read the book but we wonder how it compares. We see glimpses of an interesting story (told badly) and think the book may hold some promise.

So if you’ve read it and/or seen the show, let us know!

And while you’re at it, let us know what you’re up to in your after hours. What do you like to do? What are your favorite books and movies? Fill us in!

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Carol Lynn Rivera

Carol Lynn Rivera

I'm a business owner, content creator, podcaster and marketer. In 1999 I founded Rahvalor Interactive, a web and creative services production studio, with my husband and business partner Ralph. In 2011 we created Web.Search.Social, a consulting and marketing service line for small businesses. We also cohost the Web.Search.Social Podcast where we challenge the status quo of marketing and the Carbon Based Business Units podcast where we talk about the human side of being an entrepreneur. On any given day I wear the hat of project manager, consultant, social media manager and content marketer. My true passion is writing and in my spare time I'm busy planning my early retirement to Barcelona as a famous and wealthy novelist.
Carol Lynn Rivera
Carol Lynn Rivera
  • Cool “after hours” intro music. Upbeat and jazzy. Love it!

    There’s NEVER an abridged version of dealing with incompetence. Never! Frustration with a capital “F”. Sorry to hear about your mortgage insurance conundrum. But wanna have some REAL FUN?! Try dealing/communicating/reasoning with the I.R.S. Aaarrrgh!!

    I owe you a “pie” apology, Carol Lynn. I was a total flake and I had a lot of crust assuming you had no time to bake a pie. 😉 Of course you have time to bake barefoot, build a business, and get banged by Ralph — a bountiful and beautiful life!

    Congrats on saying goodbye to bread eight weeks ago! I’ve discovered wrapping sandwich fixins in lettuce ain’t half bad. And getting my carbs via veggies isn’t too shabby, either. The only thing I really miss is pasta and I haven’t come up with a suitable substitute. But if you want to look sexy and svelte, you have to make sacrifices, right?

    The one thing I won’t give up is wine … period. The world is wacky and I need wine to wind down from all the wackiness.

    I watched six or seven episodes of “Zoo” and lost interest after that. I dunno. The story turned somewhat convoluted and lost its flow and flair for me. I’m a “House of Cards” and “Downton Abbey” kinda gal and I LOVE watching Masterpiece Theatre. Just finished watching “Arthur and George” and now I’m tuning in to a new series called “Indian Summers”. The BEST series I’ve ever watched is “The Tudors”. Henry VIII was one hell of deranged character! (Maybe my choice in programming has something to do with my British heritage.) 😉

    Other than that, give me a good murder mystery any day of the week or anything paranormal!! (My cup of tea)

    See you next month — after hours. 🙂

    • Well first of all, it looks like next time I have to rant about Disqus never sending me comment notifications so I have to keep checking here on my own. But mostly I LAUGHED so much about your “pie apology”. You are hilarious. That crust was my only “carb” but I think I made up for it, heaven knows. it was a lot of flour! But it was worth it.

      I tried the whole lettuce wrap thing, too, and decided I would rather just eat everything disassembled. Otherwise I don’t miss bread, it just seems unnecessary at this point. I don’t even miss pasta but I don’t have much opportunity to eat it anyway. If I was out at a nice restaurant and it was in front of me, I’d eat it but day to day I am fine with my meat and veggies (and beans sans tofu!) And wine… that is non-negotiable!

      Don’t talk to me about the IRS. I have been having a fight with them for 15 years – yes, that’s right – about our business and it’s still going on. Maybe that will be my next rant.

      Zoo is the stupidest show on TV but it’s one of those things we keep going back to because of no good reason. We both love House of Cards and Downton Abbey! I think Downton Abbey was one of our first binge watches. Never saw the Tudors but I heard it was good so maybe we’ll add that next.

      I didn’t realize you had a British heritage and if that is something I should totally have known, just don’t tell me 🙂 My family has a touch of British in it too. I’ve always found British humor the best. When we make our road trip and end up in Arizona, we’ll put dinner and a movie on the agenda!

      • I hate to put it to you this way but I’m kinda relieved to know I’m not the ONLY one who’s suffered the wrath of piss-poor service from the I.R.S. I swear the right hand doesn’t know what the left hand is doing there!! And you’ve been dealing with them for fifteen years?! They’ve been giving me ulcers for the past three years … and that’s three years too many. 🙁

        Yeah, I have British heritage (Hello, Ian. I love you!). My grandma Kissell’s maiden name was Rose Ashley. The Ashley family hails from England. You’re SO right about British humor. Can’t be beat! My dear online UK buddy, Keith Davis, keeps me in stitches. He posted something yesterday that’s still making me giggle every time I think of it.

        My dad used to make a killer Yorkshire pudding! In the UK, they call everything “pudding”, even ice cream. Silly gooses, they are!

        My dad also used to make the BEST homemade pasta. Took him all day but it was so worth it! My favorite way to eat those noodles was in the chicken soup he made. Ahh … those were the days. I can still smell that soup. <3

        The "lettuce wrap" thing can get a little boring but wrapping a turkey burger with portobello mushrooms in lettuce is mighty yummy!

        Catch "The Tudors" if you can and if you stick with "Zoo", let me know what you think. I just couldn't bring myself to tune in after getting really bored with it.

        • The government and anything to do with it is the bane of my existence. They pretty much have the power to wreck your life and the indifference not to give a shit.

          Anyway. Let’s talk about pudding… I actually just heard someone mention that pretty much everything in Britain is “pudding” which is kind of hysterical and might get confusing on a menu?? I never had Yorkshire pudding (is it ACTUAL pudding or something else?) Sounds better than a lettuce wrap!

          • Thing is, Yorkshire pudding is NOT pudding. They just call it that. LOL! It’s made with eggs, flour, and milk and baked in muffin tins. My dad used to heat oil in the bottom of the tins until it was close to catching fire before he would pour in the batter. If you’d like a visual, check Wikipedia: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Yorkshire_pudding

            The government SUCKS. It just sucks. I’ve never seen an organization so powerful … yet so stupid. Yes, in a heartbeat they can wreck your life and not give a shit. 🙁

          • Well, now I know! When we make our cross country trip you may have to make some for me 🙂

  • “Indulgence and Discipline Make a Lovely Duo”

    Healthy eating and apple pie
    May not seem to go together
    But …
    Restricting all the sweet stuff
    Simply cannot last forever

    Reward yourself with a treat
    After weeks of tofu and fish
    And …
    Don’t feel the least bit guilty
    About that pie on your dish

    Life and love are really sweet
    And business has its merits
    So …
    Indulge yourself as you wish!
    There’s more to life than carrots

    Healthy eating is my friend … and so is apple pie. 😉

    • There IS more to life than carrots! I think I missed some poems past (THANKS DISQUS) but they always make me smile.

      • I suppose I should don a party hat and dance around the room. Looks like Disqus is working again. Hallelujah!
        Glad you enjoyed my poem. 🙂

  • Enjoyed 🙂 Shall we make those Fred stories into a movie?

    • Sounds delightful! Maybe I need to start a whole Fred blog and a Fred book that then gets optioned for a Fred movie 🙂

      • But please don’t make it Freddy Krueger like! We’re a refined bunch, you know. LOL!

      • Fables, fantasies and foibles of Fred 🙂

  • Never change the original music! I always have a sneaky boogie with my kids when it starts. We all love it! Although the new one rocks, too.
    I loved the after hours show. You two feel like old friends – by that I mean friends for a while, not that you are old!

    • We won’t change it!!! Only once a month 🙂 I’m glad we’re not literally old… yet! But since we’re longtime friends now, you need to tell us something about you! Are you a movie fan? Like to read anything in particular? Hobbies? And…. go!

      • Here are the reasons that you and Ralph resonate with me:-
        1. We are of the same generation.
        2. I am a closet movie geek and I admit to seeing some movies based on whether you guys liked it or not. I have yet to get into Game of Thrones on TV, but think I might get the books.
        3. I love straight talking, no BS, and I don’t mind the odd bit of swearing from you guys, cos it’s always fully justified and not just for shock value.
        4. Carol Lynn taught me that there is no shame in having an office full of My Little Ponies.
        5. You guys made me do a little dance of joy when you said I didn’t need to be on Periscope.
        6. I am about as racist as Carol Lynn. (Lol)
        7. I love cooking and baking.
        8. I love business but get sick of sleazy marketers, which you guys are not.
        9. I admire your work ethic. You don’t preach a 4 hour work week.
        10. I am in Spain waiting to have a drink with you and buy your bestselling novel! I love writing, too.
        There are so many podcasts out there, but the WSS one is so valuable to me as it educates and entertains in a truly down to earth and accessible way. I spend a lot of time alone running my business, so the podcast makes me feel less lonely. Thankyou guys.

        • I love it! Our very own top 10 list. And I think a room full of My Little Ponies is the second best thing I ever heard of… after a room full of Hello Kitties 😉